In the debate between Mr. Butt and Mr. Scott, Mr. Scott continually asked for the evidence for the existence of God. This was his primary reason for rejecting the evidence that was presented to him and the audience from Mr. Butt. He asked repeatedly "Where's the evidence?". I believe that Mr. Scott is unaware of the true nature of evidence. It is not what many, including Mr. Scott seem to think. The following is an article that I published a few years ago on Facebook. It explains what the true nature of evidence is and what is really involved when anyone comes to that evidence.
What is the place of scientific evidence in the origins debate? Do
things like DNA, fossils, rock layers, the age of the earth really show
that the earth is billions of years old and that evolution has occurred,
or do they support the creation account as described in Genesis. Why is
it that 2 PhD scientists can work side by side on the same piece of
evidence and come up with 2 totally different explanations of the
evidence?
Many people like to think that an unbiased
investigation of the evidence in the absolute standard by which the
origins debate can be settled. We often hear the evolutionist say "The
evidence is conclusive, evolution is a fact". If this were true then,
would it not be the case that all would accept this fact? Yet when we
look at the vast gulf that exists within the two camps, it becomes
obvious that something else is in play.
Again, some people
think that all that is needed is the evidence. However, such a view
does not stand up to careful scrutiny. Others take the opposite
approach. They believe that scientific evidence is utterly irrelevant
to the debate. The issue being more a matter of faith than reason.
However, this is overly simplistic and, just as the opposite, will not
stand up to careful scrutiny.
Before we begin to address the
issue at hand, I wish to include a couple of the most compelling
scientific arguments for Biblical creation. The first has to do with
Information Science. This is a relatively new field in science. Yet it
is one of the most compelling. In this technological age, we are
inundated with all sorts of information. But few people stop to
consider what information really is and where it comes from. We can
define information scientifically as a coded message containing an
expected action and intent. Under this definition, the words on the
screen qualify as information. That is to cay they are encoded, the
words represent ideas. The expected action is that you, the reader,
will read and act upon the words. The intended purpose is that you will
become better in your understanding of the issue (that is, if I can
explain it!).
The DNA molecule is a long molecule found
within living cells and resembles a twisted ladder. The rungs of the
ladder form a pattern of base pair triplets that represent amino acid
sequences or the building blocks of protein. DNA contains the
instructions to build the organism. So different organisms have
different DNA patterns. DNA qualifies under the definition of
information. 1) It contains an encoded message, the base pair triplets
that represent amino acids. 2) It has an expected action, the formation
of proteins. 3) It has an intended purpose, life. This being the
case, DNA contains information. Whenever we find any kind of
information there are certain rules that apply, these are called
theorems. For our discussion we will look at two. 1) "There is no
known law of nature, no known process and no know sequence of events
that can cause information to originate by itself in matter", (Theorem
#28 in DR. Werner Gitts book In the Beginning Was Information, Green
Forest, AR:Master Books, 2006, p. 207). 2) "When its progress along the
chain of transmission events is traced backwards, every piece of
information leads to a mental source, the mind of the sender ( Theorem
#15, Gitt, In the Beginning Was Information, p. 107). The first tells
us that matter does not spontaneously generate information. The second
tells us that only a mental source can generate new information. To
underline this concept, consider the response given by Richard Dawkins
when asked to give an example of new information being generated by
chance. His response was silence.
In one sense, these
theorems are hardly profound; we that for granted that when we read a
book it has an author. No one reading this would conclude that it was
generated by a sequence of typos that gradually accumulated over time.
We take for granted that a mind (no matter how small) is ultimately
responsible for the information that it contains. The theorems of
information science confirm this.
With this new science, it
would seem that the gradualist Darwinian scenario is crushed. These
theorems tell us that life cannot have come about as it is stated by the
evolutionists. The information in DNA cannot have come about by
mutations and selection because the laws of information science tell us
that all information comes from a mind. This goes against the
Neo-Darwinian synthesis of origins. The laws of information science
would seem to confirm the creation account as given in Genesis.
Although the above example is a very good argument, it does not
actually prove Biblical creation, nor does it utterly refute evolution.
The reason being is, when faced with this kind of evidence, those who
do not accept the Biblical account of creation invoke (unknowingly) what
is called a "rescuing device". That is, they invent a story to explain
away apparently contrary evidence. A great example of this comets.
Evolutionary astronomers believe that the solar system is billions of
years old, yet they see comets within it. They can see that comets
disintegrate quite rapidly and based on this they compute that they can
last only 100,000 years or so. This would indicate the the universe is
rather young. How do the resolve this dilemma? There must be a source
that generates new comets to replace the old ones. So they have
proposed the Oort cloud (named after its inventor Jan Oort). This cloud
is an enormous hypothetical sphere of icy masses that surround our
solar system. It is supposedly far beyond the most distant planets,
beyond the range of our most powerful telescopes. They also suppose
that on occasion, objects in the Oort cloud are dislodged from their
distant orbit and thrown into the inner solar system to become brand new
comets. Since these new comets continually replace the old ones, the
solar system could be billions of years old. It is important to
indicate here that no one has ever seen the Oort cloud. It is
supposedly much to far away to detect the small objects within it.
Currently there is no observational evidence of any kind for the cloud.
This is a rescuing device that "saves" the evolutionists view from
evidence that would otherwise seem to refute it. Is this acceptable?
Can "rescuing devices be used?
The answer to the question
might surprise you. It is NO. A rescuing device is not necessarily
wrong. In fact we all use these devices, even the Biblical
creationist. The distant starlight problem is a great example the the
Biblical creationist also use these devices. This argument states that
the universe must be billions of years old since it takes light millions
of years to reach the earth from distant galaxies. This would seem to
be irrefutable evidence that the universe is in fact billions of years
old. How does the Biblical creationist answer this contrary evidence. A
rescuing device. There have been several models proposed to explain
this problem, yet they have yet to be conclusive. So in order to retain
our position, we issue a rescuing device of our own. We introduce the
words of Scripture in order to save our belief. Is this arbitrary? Are
we, just like the evolutionist being unreasonable? The answer is no,
both sides have a reason to believe what they believe. It is called a
world view.
We all have a way of thinking about the world,
this is commonly called a world view. Our world view contains our most
strongly held convictions about how the world works, how it came to be,
the nature of reality, and nature of truth and how we should live. Most
people today have not given much thought to their own world view. In
fact many do not even realize that they have one. Such people tend to
think that all knowledge is acquired by an unbiased observation of the
evidence. This is called "Empiricism" and it is itself a world view.
We cannot help but to have some beliefs about how the world works, how
we obtain knowledge and how we should live. Even if we believe that we
have no such beliefs, this is a belief itself. There is no escaping
it. It is inevitable to have one. The thing is a rational world view
in not.
A world view is like mental glasses. It effects the
way that we look at the world. A person wearing red glasses sees
everything as being red. A person wearing evolution glasses sees
evolution everywhere. The world is not really re everywhere, but the
glasses do effect our perception of the world and the conclusions that
we draw. The evolutionists sees the world differently then does the
Biblical creationist. We have the exact same facts, but what we make of
those facts is colored by our world view. Thus, we interpret the same
evidence differently. This is why the two PhD scientists can come to
two totally different conclusion about the exact same evidence. This
point cannot be overstated. Much of the frustration that exists in the
evolution-creation debate is due to this fact. The evolutionist and the
creationist must interpret the same data differently due to their
different world views.
Many people do not want to accept the
fact that all evidence must be interpreted in light of prior beliefs, a
faith commitment of some kind. Again, many have the assumption that
evidence should be approached in a neutral and unbiased fashion. That
is without any previous beliefs. This is impossible to do since this
view is itself a belief and not based on any empirical evidence. It is a
belief about how we should look at the evidence. In order for our
observation of evidence to be meaningful, we first have to assume that
our senses are reliable. If our senses are not reliable then any
observation is flawed and we cannot empirically test our senses because
we have to use the very thing that we are testing. Since this is the
case it does us no good to observe the evidence if we did not believe
that our observation were real and reliable. We cannot avoid wearing
mental glasses, having a world view. The item of importance here is
that we need to make sure that we have the correct glasses. An
incorrect pair will draw incorrect conclusions, a correct pair will
prevent us from drawing the wrong conclusion and can improve our
understanding about the universe.
A magician saws a woman in
half. Your senses tell you that you saw this happen. But the
conclusion that you draw from it is not based on what you have seen.
You draw your conclusion that it is a trick because you world view
prevents you from drawing the wrong conclusion, that the woman was
actually cut in half. Our world view restrains us and guides us in the
interpretation of the evidence. This is true in every aspect of life
from origins to our view of the Bible. Our world view tells us what to
make of the evidence. We all interpret the facts in light of our world
view. Any evidence that seems to challenge our world view can always be
explained by invoking a "rescuing device". Many of the debates and
comments about origins (from both sides) are not effective because the
opposing sided do not understand the nature of world views, evidence and
rescuing devices. This is the fundamental reason why the parties
always leave the debate wondering what is wrong with the other side.
They call the Biblical creationist unreasonable even stupid, yet the
same can be said about the Biblical creationist (which should never
happen).
Evidence by itself will never settle the debate,
and being such it would appear that there is no rational resolution to
the issue. After all, no matter how compelling the evidence to either
side may be,the opponent will always interpret that evidence in light
of their world view. This being the case, is there any way to
rationally resolve this issue?